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A '''cub''' is a [[W:Preadolescence|preadolescent]] [[mammal]], usually [[carnivore|carnivorous]] animals [[such]] as an [[ursine]], [[hyena]] or [[feline]]. The young of certain [[species]] may have more specific titles; for example, young [[canine]]s may be called [[pup]]s; young [[fox]]es, [[Wiktionary:kit#Etymology 2|kits]]; etc.
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== Cub porn in mainstream culture ==
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Regarding "cub porn", as of 2010, there are no worldwide laws that explicitly refer to [[sex]]ual depictions of minors other than [[human]]s, and there is no known case of cub pornography being used to prosecute anyone in a court of law. However, there are laws in many countries that could be used to prosecute people if the issue is argued in court. These can include [[W:obscenity|obscenity]], [[bestiality]], and [[W:child pornography|child pornography]] laws which rely on some interpretation based on opinion.
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There are, however [[W:Legal status of cartoon pornography depicting minors|laws covering cartoon pornography depicting minors]], and Australia has implemented laws strictly prohibiting any depiction of child pornography "even one which departs from recognizable human forms in some significant respects";<ref>''[http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/08/bart-simpson-child-pornography-and-free-speech/ Bart Simpson, Child Pornography and Free Speech]'' - Jack Healy, New York Times blogs. Retrieved December 8, 2008.</ref> the UK has enacted a similar law.<ref>[http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2009/25/part/2/chapter/2/crossheading/prohibited-images ''Coroners and Justice Act 2009'', Part 2, Chapter 2: Prohibited images] - UK Parliament. Retrieved ?.</ref> These laws have extended to pornography of real people who are over the age of consent but appear not to be. People have been convicted numerous times for possessing non-anthro cartoon pornography, although some of these cases have been overturned on appeal.
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=== Mainstram censorship of furry sites ===
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In 2008, a list of web addresses to be blocked in Australia was spread via [[Wikipedia:Wikileaks|Wikileaks]]; it included several images of cub porn hosted on [[e621]].<ref>https://file.wikileaks.org/file/acma-secret-blacklist-11-mar-2009.txt</ref> The spread of [[W:HTTP Secure|HTTPS]], which conceals the URL being accessed, has led to both Fur Affinity and Inkbunny being [[Wikipedia:Internet censorship in Russia|blacklisted by Russia]].{{cn}}
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== Cub and furry ==
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Within [[furry fandom]], the term ''cub'' may be used to refer from [[roleplay]]ing grown up and adolescent human [[furries]] (e.g. [[Babyfur]]s, most often [[fursuit|fursuited]] than not), to all imaginary, created [[character]]s under the [[Wikipedia:Age of majority|age of majority]], from babies to [[W:tween|tween]]s.
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This has particular relevance due to the prevalence of [[furry]] [[adult]] media in the fandom, which is often restricted using this criterion, but, because such drawings do not depict a physical person, it is impossible to determine their age, therefore some legal systems depend on analysis based on the psychical attributes of normal human development ([[breast]]s, pubic hair, muscle tone, and size) for age estimation. This can be impractical for fantasy creatures such as [[taur]]s, [[griffon]]s, and [[dragon]]s, which display few human age-related traits.
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== Cub pornography and furry ==
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=== Fur Affinity ===
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{{see also|History of Fur Affinity#Pornographic cub art}}
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On November 5, 2006, due to a belief that cub-related [[adult art]]work did not violate US law, [[Fur Affinity]] began to allow pornographic cub submissions,<ref name="FA2006">[http://web.archive.org/web/20120229055619/http://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/3965-FA-Policy-Notice-Cub-Art "FA Policy Notice - "Cub" Art"] - posted by [[Dragoneer]] on November 5, 2006; archived February 29, 2012.</ref> with the requirement of proper tagging. This caveat was to go with a then-promised future feature of the site which would allow users to block tags for content they do not wish to see.<ref name="FA2006"/> (This tag-blocking feature has never been implemented.) Before this, such artwork was prohibited by the TOS.<ref name="FA2006"/>
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In November 2010, Fur Affinity again banned adult cub artwork from its website, after payment processor [[Wikipedia:AlertPay|AlertPay]] cancelled its donations account.<ref>''[http://www.flayrah.com/3346/fur-affinity-loses-alertpay-account-bans-cub-porn Fur Affinity loses AlertPay account, bans cub porn]'' - [[GreenReaper]], [[Flayrah]] (24 November 2010)</ref> According to site owner [[Dragoneer]], the only choice was to ban such artwork or lose the site. The move fuelled growth at [[Inkbunny]], which had opened shortly before with a tag-blocking system allowing such material to co-exist with those not wishing to see it.
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=== Inkbunny ===
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Inkbunny was founded in part by individuals involved with ''[[Softpaw Magazine]]''.{{fact}} The site allows adult cub art and written stories, and lead admin [[GreenReaper]] has stated a belief such works are legally protected due to not depicting human characters.{{fact}} As a corollary to this,{{fact}} artwork, stories, and thumbnails depicting human characters (or "essentially human" ones, such as [[nekos]]) in adult situations, regardless of age, is prohibited.<ref>[https://wiki.inkbunny.net/wiki/ACP#Human_Characters "Acceptable Content Policy - Humans"] - [[Inkbunny]]. Retrieved June 13, 2018.</ref>
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=== Weasyl ===
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[[Weasyl]] has banned cub pornography since its founding.{{cn}} Specifically, the site prohibits art and story submissions containing "Minors in sexual/mature situations" and those depicted with "unacceptable nudity".<ref name="Weasyl">[https://www.weasyl.com/policy/community "Community Guidelines"] on [[Weasyl]]. Retrieved June 13, 2018.</ref> For the rule, "minor" and "underage" characters include those drawn with child- or infant-like proportions, with allowances for "chibi" stylization.<ref name="Weasyl"/>
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Before May 31, 2018, [[SoFurry]] prohibited "realistic depictions of [[human]] underage characters", but citing unspecified changes to how relevant laws are interpreted, banned all visual cub artwork that was rated above their "All Ages" rating.<ref name="SF">[https://www.sofurry.com/siteupdate/view?id=129 "Recent update - AUP update regarding child characters in artwork, and Privacy policy updates"] posted by [[Toumal]] on May 31, 2018. Retrieved June 13, 2018.</ref> Users were given a single day to remove artwork that violated the new policy, after which moderators would automatically remove such art, without penalty for submissions uploaded before the change.<ref name="SF"/> They also allowed a grace period lasting until October 31, 2018, during which users who uploaded artwork violating the new policy would be informed of the change.<ref name="SF"/> After the grace period, their normal policy of policy violations will apply.<ref name="SF"/>
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=== Cub Central ===
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[[Cub Central]] was a website that hosted cub-related art and stories, including that which was adult in nature. Largely eclipsed by Fur Affinity in 2007,{{fact}} the site closed down permanently in 2015 when the original owner passed away.
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In 2018, the [[W:Voice over IP|VoIP]] service [[Discord (software)|Discord]] amended its [[Terms of Service]] to ban drawn pornography of underaged characters.<ref name="Discord">[https://www.polygon.com/2019/1/30/18203692/discord-nsfw-policy-furry-cub "Discord’s lax policy on furry ‘cub content’ leads to user outcry"]. Petrana Radulovic for ''Polygon''. Published January 30, 2019, retrieved May 1, 2019.</ref>
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A cub is a preadolescent mammal, usually carnivorous animals such as an ursine, hyena or feline. The young of certain species may have more specific titles; for example, young canines may be called pups; young foxes, kits; etc.

Cub porn in mainstream culture

Regarding "cub porn", as of 2010, there are no worldwide laws that explicitly refer to sexual depictions of minors other than humans, and there is no known case of cub pornography being used to prosecute anyone in a court of law. However, there are laws in many countries that could be used to prosecute people if the issue is argued in court. These can include obscenity, bestiality, and child pornography laws which rely on some interpretation based on opinion.

There are, however laws covering cartoon pornography depicting minors, and Australia has implemented laws strictly prohibiting any depiction of child pornography "even one which departs from recognizable human forms in some significant respects";[1] the UK has enacted a similar law.[2] These laws have extended to pornography of real people who are over the age of consent but appear not to be. People have been convicted numerous times for possessing non-anthro cartoon pornography, although some of these cases have been overturned on appeal.

Mainstram censorship of furry sites

In 2008, a list of web addresses to be blocked in Australia was spread via Wikileaks; it included several images of cub porn hosted on e621.[3] The spread of HTTPS, which conceals the URL being accessed, has led to both Fur Affinity and Inkbunny being blacklisted by Russia.[citation needed]

Cub and furry

Within furry fandom, the term cub may be used to refer from roleplaying grown up and adolescent human furries (e.g. Babyfurs, most often fursuited than not), to all imaginary, created characters under the age of majority, from babies to tweens.

This has particular relevance due to the prevalence of furry adult media in the fandom, which is often restricted using this criterion, but, because such drawings do not depict a physical person, it is impossible to determine their age, therefore some legal systems depend on analysis based on the psychical attributes of normal human development (breasts, pubic hair, muscle tone, and size) for age estimation. This can be impractical for fantasy creatures such as taurs, griffons, and dragons, which display few human age-related traits.

Cub pornography and furry

Fur Affinity

See also: History of Fur Affinity#Pornographic cub art

On November 5, 2006, due to a belief that cub-related adult artwork did not violate US law, Fur Affinity began to allow pornographic cub submissions,[4] with the requirement of proper tagging. This caveat was to go with a then-promised future feature of the site which would allow users to block tags for content they do not wish to see.[4] (This tag-blocking feature has never been implemented.) Before this, such artwork was prohibited by the TOS.[4]

In November 2010, Fur Affinity again banned adult cub artwork from its website, after payment processor AlertPay cancelled its donations account.[5] According to site owner Dragoneer, the only choice was to ban such artwork or lose the site. The move fuelled growth at Inkbunny, which had opened shortly before with a tag-blocking system allowing such material to co-exist with those not wishing to see it.

Inkbunny

Inkbunny was founded in part by individuals involved with Softpaw Magazine.[citation needed] The site allows adult cub art and written stories, and lead admin GreenReaper has stated a belief such works are legally protected due to not depicting human characters.[citation needed] As a corollary to this,[citation needed] artwork, stories, and thumbnails depicting human characters (or "essentially human" ones, such as nekos) in adult situations, regardless of age, is prohibited.[6]

Weasyl

Weasyl has banned cub pornography since its founding.[citation needed] Specifically, the site prohibits art and story submissions containing "Minors in sexual/mature situations" and those depicted with "unacceptable nudity".[7] For the rule, "minor" and "underage" characters include those drawn with child- or infant-like proportions, with allowances for "chibi" stylization.[7]

SoFurry

Before May 31, 2018, SoFurry prohibited "realistic depictions of human underage characters", but citing unspecified changes to how relevant laws are interpreted, banned all visual cub artwork that was rated above their "All Ages" rating.[8] Users were given a single day to remove artwork that violated the new policy, after which moderators would automatically remove such art, without penalty for submissions uploaded before the change.[8] They also allowed a grace period lasting until October 31, 2018, during which users who uploaded artwork violating the new policy would be informed of the change.[8] After the grace period, their normal policy of policy violations will apply.[8]

Cub Central

Main article: Cub Central

Cub Central was a website that hosted cub-related art and stories, including that which was adult in nature. Largely eclipsed by Fur Affinity in 2007,[citation needed] the site closed down permanently in 2015 when the original owner passed away.

Discord

In 2018, the VoIP service Discord amended its Terms of Service to ban drawn pornography of underaged characters.[9]

References

  1. Bart Simpson, Child Pornography and Free Speech - Jack Healy, New York Times blogs. Retrieved December 8, 2008.
  2. Coroners and Justice Act 2009, Part 2, Chapter 2: Prohibited images - UK Parliament. Retrieved ?.
  3. https://file.wikileaks.org/file/acma-secret-blacklist-11-mar-2009.txt
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 "FA Policy Notice - "Cub" Art" - posted by Dragoneer on November 5, 2006; archived February 29, 2012.
  5. Fur Affinity loses AlertPay account, bans cub porn - GreenReaper, Flayrah (24 November 2010)
  6. "Acceptable Content Policy - Humans" - Inkbunny. Retrieved June 13, 2018.
  7. 7.0 7.1 "Community Guidelines" on Weasyl. Retrieved June 13, 2018.
  8. 8.0 8.1 8.2 8.3 "Recent update - AUP update regarding child characters in artwork, and Privacy policy updates" posted by Toumal on May 31, 2018. Retrieved June 13, 2018.
  9. "Discord’s lax policy on furry ‘cub content’ leads to user outcry". Petrana Radulovic for Polygon. Published January 30, 2019, retrieved May 1, 2019.

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